December 19, 2022

What is your thought on 1 Tim 4: 1-5… or the first miracle of Jesus feeding the multitude with fish and bread…

Question:

Are there any Christians on this group? What is your thought on 1 Tim 4: 1-5… or the first miracle of Jesus feeding the multitude with fish and bread…or Jesus turing water into wine…??? A serious question.

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Terrain answer:

1 Timothy 4:
1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

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Again, nothing here negates Genesis 1:29 and these are after the fall of man. Consequences to actions. We can sin but there are consequences to sin. We can eat just about anything, but some things have consequences. The consequence of eating the putrefying flesh of gods beloved creatures is disease in our own body. The consequence of sin is discomfort. Permission to do something does not mean there are not consequences to it. Line 4 after the fall of man we were given permission to eat certain flesh foods which were deemed clean, here it reminds us to receive those with thanksgiving for the life stolen. Permission did not change our physiology, we are still made for Genesis 1:29 even though we choose sin. Consequences to that consumption are obvious.

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Matthew 14:13-21
13 And when Jesus heard it, he departed thence by ship into a desert place apart. And when the multitude had heard it, they followed him on foot out of the cities.
14 [a]And Jesus went forth and saw a great multitude, and was moved with compassion toward them, and he healed their sick.
15 ¶ And when even was come, his disciples came to him, saying, This is a desert place, and the time is already past: let the multitude depart, that they may go into the towns, and buy them vittles.
16 But Jesus said to them, They have no need to go away: give ye them to eat.
17 Then said they unto him, We have here but five loaves, and two fishes.
18 And he said, Bring them hither to me.
19 And he commanded the multitude to sit down on the grass, and took the five loaves, and the two fishes, and looked up to heaven, and blessed, and brake, and gave the loaves to his disciples, and the disciples to the multitude.
20 And they did all eat, and were sufficed, and they took up of the fragments that remained, twelve baskets full.
21 And they that had eaten, were about five thousand men, beside women and little children.

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Neither is relevant to the group as neither negates Genesis 1:29. Both are after the fall of man. Neither endorses the murder of gods beloved creatures. Permission was given after man turned to flesh, accommodation was made because man had sinned as man is apt to do.
The word “meat” means food. It doesn’t mean putrefying flesh. Genesis 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

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The fall of man is what caused the flood.

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Matthew 14 is the story of Jesus performing a miracle. It is not endorsing a particular substance as food. It merely states the disciples had for food only bread and fish and Jesus took what they had for food and through his documented miracle made enough food to feed 5000. Still nothing in that which negates Genesis 1:29

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You might be interested in doing some research into the new age religion and it’s connection to the New World Order. This idea stems from propaganda from the New Age religion. I used to believe this as well until I started digging into the New Age and it’s roots and intentions.

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